Clearing up Encense du Monde

In my last Encense du Monde article I was given assistance by a couple readers on the origins of some of the incenses, that is what company they originated from. Given that most of the line heralds from several companies I thought I’d put up the rest of the line to see if we can’t collectively clear up the rest of the line. Originally I thought in doing so we’d find out where some duplications are, however it’s become clear that even in cases where there seems to be duplication, there often isn’t. I was pretty stunned to find out that Middle Path and Mount Fuji were apparently the same name as the two Daily incenses Daigen Koh and Hoyei Koh, as they are very different in scent. So anyway, here’s the list after the break, if you can fill in the gaps in the comments I’d most appreciate it. Pictures of the incenses can be found here and on subsequent pages. Eventually once complete I’ll put up a comparison page between similarly named incenses for reference.

Herbosense line (Kunjudo)
Karin line (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Lavender (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Lily of the Valley (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Rose (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Freesia (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Lilac (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Long Rolls Oriental Breeze (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls  Pine and Orchid [Wedding] (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls, Meditation Virgin Snow (Kunjudo)
Japonessence, Short Rolls Whispering Bamboo (Kokando)
Japonessence, Short Rolls 1000 Years of Wisdom (Kokando)
Aromambiance line (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Cherry Blossom (Kunjudo)
Short Folls Fig (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Moments of Eternity (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Moments of Serenity (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Aloe Vera (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Treasure of Sweetness (Kunjudo)
Short Rolls Tender Season (Kunjudo)
Long Rolls Autumn Leaves (Shoyeido)
Long Rolls Golden Pavilion (Shoyeido)
Long Rolls Ikebana (Shoyeido)
Long Rolls Jade Orchid (Kokando)
Long Rolls Middle Path (Shoyeido)
Long Rolls Mount Fuji (Shoyeido)
Meditation Guiding Light (Kunjudo)
Meditation Imperial Family (Kokando)
Meditation Seeds of Transformation (Kunjudo)
Meditation Celestial Nave (Kokando)
Meditation Blissful Mountain (Kunjudo)
Temple Length Forest of Flowers (Kunjudo)
Temple Length Royal Nave (Kunjudo)
Temple Length Swallows in Flight (Kunjudo)
Temple Length Golden Waves (Kunjudo)
Luxury Prince of Awaji (Kunjudo)
Artitude line (Kunjudo)
Pocket Incense line (Kunjudo)

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14 Comments

  1. Aye said,

    October 9, 2009 at 4:37 am

    Hello Mike
    Wonderful site you have here. A couple of questions for you please. Is there an Encens du Monde retail shop in Paris? If not what department store are they located in?
    And under what names are Blissful Mountain, Guiding Light, Swallows in Flight and Golden Waves called under Kunjudo?
    I would appreciate any info you can give.
    Thanks,
    Aye

    • Mike said,

      October 9, 2009 at 1:52 pm

      Hi, thanks for the comments. I actually have no answers for any of your questions, but I suspect you’d find out where they’re retailed in Paris by looking up the Encens du Monde site in France or contacting them if the answer isn’t on there. I assume you’re asking for the French names of the incenses and I know for sure you’ll be able to find them at the EdM site, but for the most part the English is actually a translation of the French. Hope that helps some…

  2. Ricardo said,

    July 13, 2009 at 1:04 am

    I don´t understand. If Imperial Family comes from Kokando according to Francois and it is pretty obvious that Ranshuko (Celestial Nave) comes from the same company that makes Imperial Family, why it says Kunjudo?
    Imperial Family and Celestial Nave belong to the same company, so it must be Kokando or a very different one not mentioned.
    Probably I got confused reading it since english is not my first language but would like to know the company that makes Ranshuko, it was the first really good Japanese incense I ever tried and originally thought it belonged to the same company that makes Reiryoko (Kunmeido).

    • Mike said,

      July 13, 2009 at 8:45 am

      Hi Ricardo, why do you think Imperial Family and Ranshuko are from the same company? Earlier in the thread I would have gussed that Ranshuko/Celestial Nave would not be a Kunjudo incense either, so I’m curious of your reasoning. – Mike

      • Pinjie said,

        July 13, 2009 at 9:25 am

        Hi, Ricardo and Mike,

        There is “Kokando” in Kanji (Chinese characters) written on the boxes of both Imperial Family and Ranshuko (Celestial Nave). The five characters on the lower part of the two labels are identical; they both say “Carefully Made by Kokando”. Hope this helps…

        Pinjie

        • Mike said,

          July 13, 2009 at 9:47 am

          Thanks for clearing it up Pinjie, I’ll make that correction to the list.

        • Ricardo said,

          July 15, 2009 at 12:04 am

          Thank you Pinjie

          Mike: I knew they belonged to the same company because the characters in the box matched as Bernd Sandner originally said in one of the comments and because the box designs are very similar.
          I find it intriguing that the descriptions of Kokando here at ORS always mentioned that their fragrances are difficult to describe, makes me want to try more of Kokando.

  3. François said,

    April 10, 2009 at 5:28 am

    Hi Mike, just another info : if, like me, you love the high end Encens du monde’s aloeswood blends, you must order what you can in America : yesterday i tried to restock, but Golden Waves (temple and ceremony), Swallows in flight (temple, ceremony and Karin) and Prince of Awaji aren’t in the line anymore. I called the company, it seems that they have problems with Kunjudo, and that these incenses are out of stock for an “unspecified period”, and they’re not sure they’ll have them again… “prince of Awaji” is not one of my favorites, but i adore the two others, really sorry for this…

    Best to you, François

    • Mike said,

      April 13, 2009 at 10:23 am

      Hi Francois, I believe such an event has occured before, that is I think the EdM high enders do tend to go in and out of stock with big gaps in between. But I agree it would be a shame for Golden Waves and Swallows in Flight to disappear, they’re both excellent. Prince of Awaji I’m probably stocked for life on, the stick count is way above what they say it is and I don’t think it’s worth the price, most incenses at that range are much better. So I don’t dip too much into the box, on the other hand I find I like it more and more with use. But a kyara stick it isn’t.

  4. françois said,

    April 9, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Hi, the Karin line is Kunjudo of course, the brand name is on the boxes !
    And Guiding light is Kunjudo too, the logo described by Bernd (a full moon, three stars, and a cresent moon) is the old one, today you can see the new one on the box : “Seven points, three of them connected, somehow flowing into each other, giving the slight impression of a K”.

    And all the temple incenses are made by Kunjudo.

    Best, François

    • Mike said,

      April 9, 2009 at 8:16 am

      Thanks for clearing that up François! Appreciate all the info.

  5. Mike said,

    April 8, 2009 at 8:30 am

    Thanks to both of your for your assistance, I’ve updated the list to reflect your findings. It seems to me we’re still not sure about the Guiding Light and Celestial Nave. The latter I could easily see coming from Kokando as it follows the rest of the Kokandos in the line as really having a different character than most of the Kunjudo EdMs and Bernd’s matching the trademarks has me convinced. I would also be pretty sure that Kunjudo does the whole Karin line given they market Forest of Flowers as Karin in the US implying a copyright on that name and probably all of the incenses underneath. They seem to be responsible for the unusual square cut incenses in the EdM line which is why I’m guessing Kunjudo is responsible for Prince of Awaji as well. Of course that doesn’t explain Whispering Bamboo which is also square cut but Kokando.

    The Herbosense line could be akin to NK’s Esteban line which seem to be a marriage of French perfumes in Japanese incense form, but I’d have to tend to the opinion that all of the moderns in EdM are probably Kunjudo produced in the end.

    Thanks again….

  6. Bernd Sandner said,

    April 8, 2009 at 1:11 am

    hello Mike!

    About Karin, I can confirm. The version I have looks different from the one you can get at EoA. Small boxes. On the top of the box there is the Encens du Monde logo. Round with three flowers .
    But at the back of the box there is the Kunjudo Logo. Seven points, three of them connected, somehow flowing into each other, giving the slight impression of a K.
    The outside of the box is similar to the stickers on the Temple Lengh tubes.
    You can take a look here:

    https://ssl.kundenserver.de/s8503319.shoplite.de/sess/utn1545a4c7f30ca70/shopdata/index.shopscript?main_url=https%3A%2F%2Fssl.kundenserver.de%2Fs8503319.shoplite.de%2Fsess%2Futn1545a4c7f30ca70%2Fshopdata%2Fproduct_overview.shopscript

    I can also confirm about Aromabience, although I only have the Jinkoh version.
    On the box it says Kunjudo, and also it has got the Kunjudo logo!

    Seeds of Transformation, and the meditation version of Virgin Snow have the Kunjudo sign on the box.

    This is also true for Blissful Mountain. Look just above the small chinese letters on the paper sticker. You will find the logo.

    Look at Imperial Family. On the top, above the chinese letters there is a logo.
    It is very different from Kunjudo, but I do not know what company.
    Then go down and look at the smaller chinese letters.
    They are exacly the same as on the Celestial Nave.
    This suggests, they should come from the same company.
    But which one, we have to find out.

    Guiding Light seems to come from another company also.
    The logo consist of a full moon, three stars, and a cresent moon.

    The Temple Length tubes, as I mentioned above, have the same design on their paper stickers as the karin version. I compared each box. I do not have the Temple Length Tubes. So I could only compare from the online pictures.
    Still it strongly suggests that they are made by Kunjudo as well.
    Although there is no prove.

    Maybe some other reader can give us defintite knowledge,
    not deductive, like mine. That would be helpful.
    But, what the heck, to whoever made these incenses, I am thankful.
    Burn the incense….. be happy!

    Best! Bernd

  7. François said,

    April 8, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Hi Mike, i’m quite sure of this :

    Aromambiance line (Kunjudo)
    Short Rolls Cherry Blossom (Kunjudo)
    Short Folls Fig (Kunjudo)
    Short Rolls Moments of Eternity (Kunjudo)
    Short Rolls Moments of Serenity (Kunjudo)
    Short Rolls Treasure of Sweetness (Kunjudo)
    Short Rolls Tender Season (Kunjudo)
    Meditation Guiding Light (Kunjudo)
    Meditation Imperial Family (Kokando)
    Meditation Seeds of Transformation (Kunjudo)
    Meditation Celestial Nave (Kunjudo)
    Meditation Blissful Mountain (Kunjudo)
    Temple Length Royal Nave (Kunjudo)
    Temple Length Swallows in Flight (Kunjudo)
    Temple Length Golden Waves (Kunjudo)

    The long roll “Ikebana” doesn’t exist anymore at “les encens du monde”. Another roll deleted from the catalogue is “eternal plum tree”, in fact the regular Baieido’s Kobunboku (with agarwood in the ingredients list, very strange because the stick colour and the scent were quite exactly the same, nothing to see with Tokusen or Kaden…).

    I suppose that the Herbosense line is made by Kunjudo too, in France the line is called “vegetal french incense”, and really is in the Kunjudo’s modern style of fragrances. I’m not into it, prefer traditional incenses, and i LOVE their aloeswoods, always a rich blend of woods from Indonesia and Thailand. They add many aromatics, but the result is stunning : one day i found a little plastic box of cones from Vietnam, with “aloeswood incense” written on top : it was pure wood, and the scent was (maybe a little less rich) EXACTLY the one of “Swallows in Flight”. I think Kunjudo make a pretty good work.

    Best to you ! François


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